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Group: DynoMotion Message: 4962 From: bradodarb Date: 5/16/2012
Subject: Differential Step/Dir
Hello Tom,

We are using the Yaskawa Junma servo drives that can accept step/dir input.

Docs here::

http://www.yaskawa.eu.com/nc/en/downloads/drives-motion-documents.html




I am told it can function like a standard step/dir drive (step, dir and common) but it also can function as a differential step/dir drive which is meant to offer more noise immunity.

So it has wires for::

1 Input CW, PULS Reverse pulse,
Reference pulse
Orange 1 Black
2 Input /CW, /PULS Red
3 Input CCW, SIGN Forward pulse,
Reference sign
Light
gray
Black
4 Input /CCW, /SIGN Red
5 Input +24VIN External input power
supply
White Black
6 Input /S-ON Servo ON Red
7 Output SG-COM Output signal ground Yellow Black
8 Input CLR Position deviation
Pulse clear
Red
9 Input /CLR Pink Black
10 Output PCO Phase-C signal Red
11 Output SG-PCO Phase-C signal ground Orange 2 Black
12 Output ALM Servo alarm Red
13 Output /BK Brake Light
gray
Black
14 Output /COIN Positioning completion Red




Can I configure the Kflop to operate like this?

Thanks,
Brad Murry
Group: DynoMotion Message: 4963 From: Tom Kerekes Date: 5/16/2012
Subject: Re: Differential Step/Dir
Hi Brad,
 
See page 38
 
 
 
The PULSE (Step) and SIGN (Dir) inputs are not really differential inputs.  Rather they are simply an LED with 150 ohms in series.  Those should work well driven in 3.3V LVTTL outputs.  Connect \PULSE and \SIGN to KFLOP GND.  Connect KFLOP Step and Dir outputs to PULSE and SIGN.  Use TTL output mode rather than open collector (add 8 to the channel number).  The drive current through the LED should be at least:
 
(2.8V Output - 1.4V LED) / 150 ohms = 9.3ma.  which meets their 7 - 15ma allowed range.
 
Regards
TK

Group: DynoMotion Message: 4964 From: bradodarb Date: 5/16/2012
Subject: Re: Differential Step/Dir
Hello Tom,

Thanks, and we thought about moving over to JP7 to do what you are recommending but....

We really wanted to use JP5 here, so I was planning on running
\PULSE and \SIGN to KFLOP vcc with a resistor between (I think it wants ~185 ohms) to pull up.

Would that not work?

Thanks,
Brad Murry

--- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Brad,
>  
> See page 38
>  
> http://www.yaskawa.eu.com/alfresco/d/d/workspace/SpacesStore/1ac27064-f314-11df-8a01-b9d9b9346635/TOEP_C710806_04B_1_0.pdf?ticket=TICKET_5acc2b13d60956857bb76a8f095b001e54c97427
>  
>  
> The PULSE (Step) and SIGN (Dir) inputs are not really differential inputs.  Rather they are simply an LED with 150 ohms in series.  Those should work well driven in 3.3V LVTTL outputs.  Connect \PULSE and \SIGN to KFLOP GND.  Connect KFLOP Step and Dir outputs to PULSE and SIGN.  Use TTL output mode rather than open collector (add 8 to the channel number).  The drive current through the LED should be at least:
>  
> (2.8V Output - 1.4V LED) / 150 ohms = 9.3ma.  which meets their 7 - 15ma allowed range.
>  
> Regards
> TK
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: bradodarb <bradodarb@...>
> To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:22 PM
> Subject: [DynoMotion] Differential Step/Dir
>
>
>  
> Hello Tom,
>
> We are using the Yaskawa Junma servo drives that can accept step/dir input.
>
> Docs here::
>
> http://www.yaskawa.eu.com/nc/en/downloads/drives-motion-documents.html
>
> I am told it can function like a standard step/dir drive (step, dir and common) but it also can function as a differential step/dir drive which is meant to offer more noise immunity.
>
> So it has wires for::
>
> 1 Input CW, PULS Reverse pulse,
> Reference pulse
> Orange 1 Black
> 2 Input /CW, /PULS Red
> 3 Input CCW, SIGN Forward pulse,
> Reference sign
> Light
> gray
> Black
> 4 Input /CCW, /SIGN Red
> 5 Input +24VIN External input power
> supply
> White Black
> 6 Input /S-ON Servo ON Red
> 7 Output SG-COM Output signal ground Yellow Black
> 8 Input CLR Position deviation
> Pulse clear
> Red
> 9 Input /CLR Pink Black
> 10 Output PCO Phase-C signal Red
> 11 Output SG-PCO Phase-C signal ground Orange 2 Black
> 12 Output ALM Servo alarm Red
> 13 Output /BK Brake Light
> gray
> Black
> 14 Output /COIN Positioning completion Red
>
> Can I configure the Kflop to operate like this?
>
> Thanks,
> Brad Murry
>
Group: DynoMotion Message: 4965 From: Tom Kerekes Date: 5/16/2012
Subject: Re: Differential Step/Dir
Hi Brad,
 
The outputs on JP5 are the same as JP7.  You can use JP5 in the same manner that I described.
 
Hi Brad,
 
You can do the same with JP5 as with JP7.
 
I wouldn't do it the way you are describing.
 
Regards
TK

Group: DynoMotion Message: 4967 From: bradodarb Date: 5/16/2012
Subject: Re: Differential Step/Dir
Where can I get ground if I only want to use JP5?

And I can still use pin 36 and 37? So the output channel will be 12?

Thanks,
Brad Murry

--- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Brad,
>  
> The outputs on JP5 are the same as JP7.  You can use JP5 in the same manner that I described.
>  
> Hi Brad,
>  
> You can do the same with JP5 as with JP7.
>  
> I wouldn't do it the way you are describing.
>  
> Regards
> TK
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: bradodarb <bradodarb@...>
> To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 2:43 PM
> Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Differential Step/Dir
>
>
>  
> Hello Tom,
>
> Thanks, and we thought about moving over to JP7 to do what you are recommending but....
>
> We really wanted to use JP5 here, so I was planning on running
> \PULSE and \SIGN to KFLOP vcc with a resistor between (I think it wants ~185 ohms) to pull up.
>
> Would that not work?
>
> Thanks,
> Brad Murry
>
> --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Brad,
> >  
> > See page 38
> >  
> > http://www.yaskawa.eu.com/alfresco/d/d/workspace/SpacesStore/1ac27064-f314-11df-8a01-b9d9b9346635/TOEP_C710806_04B_1_0.pdf?ticket=TICKET_5acc2b13d60956857bb76a8f095b001e54c97427
> >  
> >  
> > The PULSE (Step) and SIGN (Dir) inputs are not really differential inputs.  Rather they are simply an LED with 150 ohms in series.  Those should work well driven in 3.3V LVTTL outputs.  Connect \PULSE and \SIGN to KFLOP GND.  Connect KFLOP Step and Dir outputs to PULSE and SIGN.  Use TTL output mode rather than open collector (add 8 to the channel number).  The drive current through the LED should be at least:
> >  
> > (2.8V Output - 1.4V LED) / 150 ohms = 9.3ma.  which meets their 7 - 15ma allowed range.
> >  
> > Regards
> > TK
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: bradodarb <bradodarb@>
> > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:22 PM
> > Subject: [DynoMotion] Differential Step/Dir
> >
> >
> >  
> > Hello Tom,
> >
> > We are using the Yaskawa Junma servo drives that can accept step/dir input.
> >
> > Docs here::
> >
> > http://www.yaskawa.eu.com/nc/en/downloads/drives-motion-documents.html
> >
> > I am told it can function like a standard step/dir drive (step, dir and common) but it also can function as a differential step/dir drive which is meant to offer more noise immunity.
> >
> > So it has wires for::
> >
> > 1 Input CW, PULS Reverse pulse,
> > Reference pulse
> > Orange 1 Black
> > 2 Input /CW, /PULS Red
> > 3 Input CCW, SIGN Forward pulse,
> > Reference sign
> > Light
> > gray
> > Black
> > 4 Input /CCW, /SIGN Red
> > 5 Input +24VIN External input power
> > supply
> > White Black
> > 6 Input /S-ON Servo ON Red
> > 7 Output SG-COM Output signal ground Yellow Black
> > 8 Input CLR Position deviation
> > Pulse clear
> > Red
> > 9 Input /CLR Pink Black
> > 10 Output PCO Phase-C signal Red
> > 11 Output SG-PCO Phase-C signal ground Orange 2 Black
> > 12 Output ALM Servo alarm Red
> > 13 Output /BK Brake Light
> > gray
> > Black
> > 14 Output /COIN Positioning completion Red
> >
> > Can I configure the Kflop to operate like this?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Brad Murry
> >
>